When : August 3, 2003
Where : KAP Office
H Since curing the patient's pain was the centerpiece of your treatment, so its progress was definite.
R am not confined to certain methods. It is mentioned in the article about the lecture of Eric Kandel, and appears in Time magazine, but now everything is progressing in a way that I predicted. The ongoing development of neuroscience has verified and proven Eastern Tao.
H After your experiences in Korea you went to study psychotherapy in the US in 1954 for 4 years, upon returning you studied about Tao. Were there any special moment of awareness to be suddenly intensified (expanded)? Or was it a case of continuous maturity?
R Due to the advent of the field of Western psychoanalyst there was an increase in concern about mental health. I wondered should I follow their work or was there something similar to that in our own culture?
I found that there has been the Eastern Tao ever since 2600 years ago while the West had found the unconsciousness only in the 19th century. This was the reason why I began to have an interest in the Tao.
H So you were able to confirm that Tao was in such a position. And it seems like you were able to further confirm it while in the US. So you went to study psychoanalysis there but instead it became a confirmation of the Tao.
R You are right. Plus while I was in the US as a psychiatrist the chief of a ward kept asking me why I hadn't become the Senior Psychiatrist, he even claimed I was better than him. And another chief of a ward mentioned his diagnosis were similar to mine and 80% is same but in fact the only 20% differences is only by the reason of some small difference of understandings.
Dr. Su Gon Kim came to me before he left for the US and said, when a Korean military doctor went to study to Bellevue Hospital, once realizing he was from Korea they asked him if he knew Dr. Rhee and when he said no, they described me as an excellent psychiatrist. I diagnosed a patient with Organic Brain Syndrome and it was confirmed while different from other doctors' diagnoses.
I haven't passed on my entire experiences to any of my disciples. A Japanese psychiatrist from Kyoto University whose father was a professor at Osaka Medical school said, upon my return from the US I visited Bellevue hospital and the Japanese doctor said, "An American intern mentioned that Dr. Rhee has the sharpest clinical eyes in Bellevue. Well there were many cases where I could diagnose what the others couldn't.
H So it would be good if you could pass the critical parts of your knowledge to your disciples
R That is the problem, they are all caught up with something else. The mind and body are not 2 different elements. But many people believe that psychiatric problems are only related to the pathology of the brain. Kandel (Eric Kandel Uses Lecture to Change Minds of Psychiatrists by Jim Rosack, Psychiatric News; XXXVI, Number 12; June 15, 2001) had proven this after 40 years of research. He argued the brain is shaped by both memories and experiences
H These days most psychiatrists feel that Psychosis is an Organic Disease isn't it?
R Yes, this idea itself is backdated when compared to the latest developments in this field.
H Of course Organic Change occurred but this was due to experience. The fact that a change in the brain came about due to experiences was deleted and they only deal with the change in brain itself right?
R Yes, Kandel the Nobel Prize winner researched it. Psychotherapy provides, what Alexander called Corrective Emotional Experience, new experiences.
H It shapes a new brain
R Yes, Taopsychotherapy is exactly this. A patient would be live in a frozen land with the cold of the winter and the doctor would provide the warmth of spring. And spring is compassion, treatment should be done with compassion.
H Is there a special treatment for schizophrenia in Taopsychotherapy?
R Schizophrenia and other mental disorders are all the same. Their similarity in psychotherapy is compassion, meaning they can be cured by compassion. With compassion perfect empathic response would be made. In other words treatment can take place through empathic reply. While growing up if there is no empathic response from parents or mother, or empathic failure, it can lead to mental disorder
H How do you explain the psychotic symptoms in Taopsychotherapy?
R During the so called Pregenital period when hurt at an earlier period it would lead to psychosis. It depends on at which developmental stage the patient had gotten hurt. But in psychotherapy therapist treats these patients feelings through a doctor's compassion. So psychosis is very vulnerable, and treatment must occur accordingly at its ego strength. In the case of neurotic it can be quickly solved but psychosis requires a few years to treat, and in some cases there is even a 10 years or more treatment period. Even if a therapist realizes patient's problem, he should wait for a long time. The ego strength is critical.
H Isn't this a similar opinion with Western psychotherapists?
R Yes, there are many similarities
H It is a problem from the earlier period of the developmental stage.
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